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NEW ARMENIAN COALITION TAKES SHAPE


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  •  49 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Levon wrote:

    A new gang of gangsters has taken over power in Armenia.
  •  49 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Levon wrote:

    I think the funniest one is Tsarukian. He is literally a mafia gang leader and a hooligan. He made his money by stealing and killing. I guess the best comparison we have is to compare him to Al Capone. He would be proud of hearing this !
    Now imagine Al Capone being in a coalition government in the US!!!!!!!
    That is EXACTLY what you see in this picture.
    All of them "good fellows". :-)))
  •  48 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Philip Karayan wrote:
    Levon, I concur in what you say and I will add the following:
    What a SHAME for the party of tashnak to endorse and be part of
    such a brutal authoritarian clan. The tashnak has been a revolutionary, radical political party with a rich history for fighting for independence, social democracy, human rights and values, dignity.
    What the heck has happened to this party and its leaders? What sort
    of deal they signed with this karabach bandit which made them forget
    the values they fought and stood for and succumbed like amateur
    little boys and girls. I believe that the tashnak eventually will
    lose the tiny credibility and leverage it still enjoys among the
    people of Armenia (its popularity has gone down the drain in the
    election of feb. 19.'08).
    Concerning bagdasarian, unfortunately he is the new upcoming young
    coward who readily betrayed his supporters (quite a few 16%) and
    joined forces with rk and ss who had called him traitor!!! couple
    of years ago. There is very little you can say you can only despise
    him, for such a fellow whose values and political belief are worth
    nothing for him. I have no doubt that he will be kicked out and will
    be treated the very same way he was treated two years ago, by the
    governing authoritarian bandits. bagtasarian has no dignity left at
    all and his forthcoming political collapse will be sudden and noisy.
  •  48 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Albert wrote:
    • Philip Karayan
      Levon, I concur in what you say and I will add the following: What a SHAME for the party of tashnak to endorse and be part of
      such a brutal authoritarian clan. The tashnak has been a revolutionary, radical political party with a rich history for fighting for independence, social democracy, human rights and values, dignity.
      What the heck has happened to this party and its leaders? What sort
      of deal they signed with this karabach bandit which made them forget
      the values they fought and stood for and succumbed like amateur
      little boys and girls. I believe that the tashnak eventually will
      lose the tiny credibility and leverage it still enjoys among the
      people of Armenia (its popularity has gone down the drain in the
      election of feb. 19.'08).
      Concerning bagdasarian, unfortunately he is the new upcoming young
      coward who readily betrayed his supporters (quite a few 16%) and
      joined forces with rk and ss who had called him traitor!!! couple
      of years ago. There is very little you can say you can only despise
      him, for such a fellow whose values and political belief are worth
      nothing for him. I have no doubt that he will be kicked out and will
      be treated the very same way he was treated two years ago, by the
      governing authoritarian bandits. bagtasarian has no dignity left at
      all and his forthcoming political collapse will be sudden and noisy.

    You are right Philip,
    I am not sure how long these guys will last. I mean, just look at them. They make me laugh. They are an embarassment by international standards.
    There is no philosophy, ideology or any idea behind them. It is just a bunch of opportunists who gang up to conitnue stealing money.
    Arthur: opportunist with no ideology. Pure ambition of the worse type. Will do ANYTHING for money and status. He proved it.
    Dashnak: the party is too old and has no ideology anymore. They should renew themselves. No one takes them seriously anymore.
    Dody Gago: He is literaly a hooligan. It is just amanzing. He is a party leader and an MP. Imagine a single second this guy talking to some representative of an international organization. It is a laugh.
    Serj: enough said. He has commited crime against his nation.
    So, it a small gang of opportunists with no ideology. I am not sure they can operate very long.
    Anyway, people are in the streets again... chack out Youtube for recent vids.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=o74OaxiPZN0
  •  48 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Rafael wrote:
    Well let me add the following:
    some of you say its a shame that the dashnaks are in this picture, well this is all a big mafia, and to prove it I will present the following case. Vahan hovhannisian's daughter is married to Alexander (serge's brother) sarkisian's son!!!
    This is by no means a rumor, sadly it is very true
  •  48 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Rafael wrote:
    I was in Armenia last week and came back yesterday. In all the metro stations there were pictures of Xachatur Sukaisian and Nikol Pashian, wanted pictures, while looking at these pictures I wondered...had levon taken power, would we have seen dodi gagos picture on the wanted list?
  •  48 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Sava wrote:
    • Rafael
      I was in Armenia last week and came back yesterday. In all the metro stations there were pictures of Xachatur Sukaisian and Nikol Pashian, wanted pictures, while looking at these pictures I wondered...had levon taken power, would we have seen dodi gagos picture on the wanted list?

    Khachatur Sukiasyan is the best from them.. He is a businessman who pay his taxes and who has his own ideology but not like other foxes!! They knew that hi is powerful enough to change many things and they afraid from him.. But he has enough miney to hire best lawyers and has enough connections in Russia and Europe to do his business outside and control some political things (even little) in Armenia...
  •  48 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     Arman wrote:
    It is so sad that people like you have bad long term memories and do not remember where Armenia was during Levon's ruling and where it is now! When Levon kicked out every single investor including Kirk Kirkorian, Kocharyan welcomed every single one and today there are tens of Foreign companies like Synopsys and Lycos having branches in Armenia and employing 500+ employees each, paying $2000-$5000 per month, creating a new middle calss... and so on...
    Armenia has come a long way. There is a whole lot to be done. What Levon did was unhealthy and worthy of the title "The Enemy of the State/People".
  •  48 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Levon wrote:
    • Arman
      It is so sad that people like you have bad long term memories and do not remember where Armenia was during Levon's ruling and where it is now! When Levon kicked out every single investor including Kirk Kirkorian, Kocharyan welcomed every single one and today there are tens of Foreign companies like Synopsys and Lycos having branches in Armenia and employing 500+ employees each, paying $2000-$5000 per month, creating a new middle calss... and so on...Armenia has come a long way. There is a whole lot to be done. What Levon did was unhealthy and worthy of the title "The Enemy of the State/People".

    Arman, I do not see anyone of the guys on this page talking about Levon or saying he is great. I am not saying Levon was a saint or not corrupt. He was also a corrupt bastard. So what? Does that mean that Robert and Serj and good or that Gago is a nice guy?
    They are criminals.
  •  48 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     MIHRAN wrote:
    • Arman
      It is so sad that people like you have bad long term memories and do not remember where Armenia was during Levon's ruling and where it is now! When Levon kicked out every single investor including Kirk Kirkorian, Kocharyan welcomed every single one and today there are tens of Foreign companies like Synopsys and Lycos having branches in Armenia and employing 500+ employees each, paying $2000-$5000 per month, creating a new middle calss... and so on...Armenia has come a long way. There is a whole lot to be done. What Levon did was unhealthy and worthy of the title "The Enemy of the State/People".

    Arman
    thank's god a well informed person is talking.all i read is 1rst class insults.as if levon was a saviour all the others are criminals they forgot about the Sirarteghians entourages.the most honourable levon used thousands tricks not to allow the ramgavar and tashnak parties to return home, one of the writer negatively glorifies the tashnag party.best of hypocracies i have seern
    yet.
    Mihran
  •  48 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Levon wrote:
    • Rafael
      Well let me add the following:some of you say its a shame that the dashnaks are in this picture, well this is all a big mafia, and to prove it I will present the following case. Vahan hovhannisian's daughter is married to Alexander (serge's brother) sarkisian's son!!!
      This is by no means a rumor, sadly it is very true

    Wow, thanks for the info and the update.
  •  47 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     Harout wrote:
    • Levon
      Arman, I do not see anyone of the guys on this page talking about Levon or saying he is great. I am not saying Levon was a saint or not corrupt. He was also a corrupt bastard. So what? Does that mean that Robert and Serj and good or that Gago is a nice guy?
      They are criminals.

    Then who is the leader that is clean and not corrupt? Who should've won?Name me one candidate who really deserved to be our president?
    No one takes tashnags seriously? Well atleast 100,000 took them seriously, this is without mentioning the stolen votes. You can bash Tashnags as much as you want, they remain the cleanest of all, calling them a mafia, is just pure LTP propaganda, not fair.
    With that said, i think a combination of Raffi Hovannesian and Vahan would've been a great thing, but too much power in hands of Robert and Serje (uncle Putin), so best luck for us next time around.
    Note: i'm in now way a Serje or Robert fan, but neither LTP. Those three miserably failed, we need new blood.
  •  47 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Levon wrote:
    • Harout
      Then who is the leader that is clean and not corrupt? Who should've won?Name me one candidate who really deserved to be our president?
      No one takes tashnags seriously? Well atleast 100,000 took them seriously, this is without mentioning the stolen votes. You can bash Tashnags as much as you want, they remain the cleanest of all, calling them a mafia, is just pure LTP propaganda, not fair.
      With that said, i think a combination of Raffi Hovannesian and Vahan would've been a great thing, but too much power in hands of Robert and Serje (uncle Putin), so best luck for us next time around.
      Note: i'm in now way a Serje or Robert fan, but neither LTP. Those three miserably failed, we need new blood.

    Yes, true... maybe with the right conditions a real good leader will pop up. Lets hope that we will find a good leader.
    As to the dashnaks, well there is nothing wrong with a party reforming itself. The dashnak party has been defending our people and history through key moments and we all respect them for that. But, they need some ideological adaptations and renewal. All modern parties renew themselves every 4 tp 10 years.
  •  47 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     MIHRAN wrote:
    • Levon
      Yes, true... maybe with the right conditions a real good leader will pop up. Lets hope that we will find a good leader.
      As to the dashnaks, well there is nothing wrong with a party reforming itself. The dashnak party has been defending our people and history through key moments and we all respect them for that. But, they need some ideological adaptations and renewal. All modern parties renew themselves every 4 tp 10 years.

    dear levon
    this is the wright attitude to evaluate things under the changing conditions of oiu country, i also believe that the tashnag party is changing some their idiologies based on todays reality,i hope they will continue the progress they started 10 years ago, hope that those people who are blinded by levon will be more realists.i do support you and write more offten so may be a positif pressure will bring those ltb'ers to the wright center.
    Mihran
  •  47 days before |  remove (4) |  reply
     Sergik go back to your cave wrote:
    One man(mayby or not men) from these fours never tolerate the rest of them.they are like a tampoon.
  •  47 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     Sako wrote:
    Seems like people forget things and do not use their analyzing to understand any issues and situations
    Let me remind you!
    There are no politicians in this Earth with clean and good reputations, all of them are criminals and outlaws with lots of guts, but others don’t, that why the opposition side always creates confusion and use the negative minority collusions to get some kind of revelation or codetta in small countries….
    Just ask your self …?! What kind of regime or government you know who reaches the power of supper power in history you know, today and will tomorrow? The answer will get you in one position work and be part of it…!!!
  •  46 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     Philip Karayan wrote:
    • Arman
      It is so sad that people like you have bad long term memories and do not remember where Armenia was during Levon's ruling and where it is now! When Levon kicked out every single investor including Kirk Kirkorian, Kocharyan welcomed every single one and today there are tens of Foreign companies like Synopsys and Lycos having branches in Armenia and employing 500+ employees each, paying $2000-$5000 per month, creating a new middle calss... and so on...Armenia has come a long way. There is a whole lot to be done. What Levon did was unhealthy and worthy of the title "The Enemy of the State/People".

    Arman, I cannot help but regret to tell you that you are talking nonsense. No one like Levon said is complimenting LTB. Try to understand and be objective, our fellow citizens were slaughtered by this governing cowards you know why? because unlike us who freely express ourselves, Armenians went to cry out for DEMOCRACY, TRANSPARENCY, PROSPECTS FOR A BETTER LIVING, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS, DIGNITY to mention few. The present regime is the worst similar to the stalin era, authoritarian government Armenia ever had. Unfortunately, before they disappear, I am afraid, they will do more to oppress and torture our fellow citizens. The worst, however, they might cause even a national tragedy. I sincerely hope not.
    As to the monthly salaries you mention, not even in your wildest dreams.

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