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   Philip Karayan wrote:
  I am really stunned with kocharian's statement. To be honest I should not be stunned simply because what he stands for is a tangible proof that he neither supports a democratic process for Armenia and its people nor he believes to human and civil rights, freedom of expression, of press, of assembling etc. He wants the people to shut up and stay put indoors so that he and his governing regime carry out their fascistic tactics intimidating, arresting with no conviction/charge any one who dares to raise his voice. These are KGB tactics that he has mastered when he and his clan were flying the communist and KGB flags not long ago. He is trying hard to sell himself as a strong leader to the West and America, however, I think his political approach and his speech is very similar to that of dictators. It is high time that he and his karabach clan understand that the people of Armenia is struggling for DEMOCRACY, TRANSPARENCY, PROSPECTS FOR A BETTER LIVING, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE and most of all DIGNITY. The clock is ticking against his corrupted and mean regime and that hopefully soon he should be brought to justice he should be given a free and fair trial and should be held accounted for slaughtering innocent, unarmed ARMENIANS.
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   Henry wrote:
  Robert,
  GET THE HELL out of Armenia. Go away. You are a criminal and an enemy of your nation. I, as an Armenian, am SICK and TIRED of you and Serj.
  Have a last geste of decency in your life and step away from your corrupt life and your nation.
  You are the number one enemy of the Nation.
  Go to hell.
  
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  
  • Philip Karayan
    I am really stunned with kocharian's statement. To be honest I should not be stunned simply because what he stands for is a tangible proof that he neither supports a democratic process for Armenia and its people nor he believes to human and civil rights, freedom of expression, of press, of assembling etc. He wants the people to shut up and stay put indoors so that he and his governing regime carry out their fascistic tactics intimidating, arresting with no conviction/charge any one who dares to raise his voice. These are KGB tactics that he has mastered when he and his clan were flying the communist and KGB flags not long ago. He is trying hard to sell himself as a strong leader to
    the West and America, however, I think his political approach and his speech is very similar to that of dictators. It is high time that he and his karabach clan understand that the people of Armenia is struggling for DEMOCRACY, TRANSPARENCY, PROSPECTS FOR A BETTER LIVING, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE and most of all DIGNITY. The clock is ticking against his corrupted and mean regime and that hopefully soon he should be brought to justice he should be given a free and fair trial and should be held accounted for slaughtering innocent, unarmed ARMENIANS.
  
  PHILIP
  IN ORDER TO HAVE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION LIBERTY AND DEMOCRACY THE RGIME SHOULD ALLOW THE COUNTRY FALL THE PRAY OF ANARCHISM WRIGHT?.
  MR LTB IN THE MEANTIME CONTINUES CONSUMING THE ENERGY OF HIS POOR BELIEVERS INSISTING THAT HE GOT 70% OF THE VOTES.EVERY BODY INCLUDING THE OBSERVERS WERE FOOLED BY THE GOVERNMENT.GIVE ME A BREAK AND USE SOME COMMON SENSE.IF OUR COUNTRY IS THAT CORRUPT WHY IN THE WORLD LTB SHOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT,DO'NT WE KNOW THE ACTIONS HE IMPLEMENTED TO GET VAZKEN MANOUKIAN OUT OF HIS WAY. LTB DID'NT WATE 11 DAYS WITHIN HOURS THE SECURITY FORCES WERE INVOLVED TO DERAIL VAZKEN'S OPPOSITION. VAZKEN WAS'NT AS SELFISH AND STUBBORN TO PUT ARMENIA'S SECURITY IN DANGER.
  PROBABLY HE WAS A REAL PATRIOT.
  MIHRAN
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   Philip Karayan wrote:
  MIHRAN
  I think you missed the point, my concern is the people of Armenia and the country's democratic momentum. You are right to criticize Levon Ter Bedrosian for his past performance and I would agree with you, however, he did not slaughter Armenians as this corrupted bandits did and from what I read the murdered victims are much more than what the regime advocates. Finally, if LTB can inspire the people of Armenia to press forward peacefully for change and democracy then I am all for it.
  
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   Alex wrote:
  I can't believe all these arm-chair critics from Diaspora think they're entitled to make ignorant comments like what Philip and Henry are doing. What you want is not Democracy, but a bloody takeover of the country by LTP. LTP is a proven slime-bag and I fail to see how his version of the Democracy will be any better. Both LTP and RK have been known to run Kleptocracies. You may dream about Western-fed notions of Democracy, but you fail to understand is that during their nation building phases all those countries went through very similar government styles.
  As an arm-chair critic not unlike you, I prefer to support RK and SS anytime over LTP.
  
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   ARAXIA wrote:
  
  • Alex
    I can't believe all these arm-chair critics from Diaspora think they're entitled to make ignorant comments like what Philip and Henry are doing. What you want is not Democracy, but a bloody takeover of the country by LTP. LTP is a proven slime-bag and I fail to see how his version of the Democracy will be any better. Both LTP and RK have been known to run Kleptocracies. You may dream about Western-fed notions of Democracy, but you fail to understand is that during their nation building phases all those countries went through very similar government styles. As an arm-chair critic not unlike you, I prefer to support RK and SS anytime over LTP.
  
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  This is good comment and I will suggest every one to read it very carefully and try to understand the reality of our future needs.
  Thank you for pure thinking
  
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   Henry wrote:
  
  • ARAXIA
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    This is good comment and I will suggest every one to read it very carefully and try to understand the reality of our future needs.
    Thank you for pure thinking
  
  Point taken. but I prefer to support the 'people'. How long are they supposed to suffer and get screwed. Besides, 1/3 of them have left the country!!!!! Does anyone realize how serious this is????
  for info: I am not an armchair critic. Until last year I had a business there and I closed it because I was sick and tired of the system. And the best people I had have now left the country or are planning to do so!!! YOu can't just replace them by robots.
  
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   Philip Karayan wrote:
  Alex,
  I really do not comprehend what are you trying to say, are you suggesting that Armenians should live under an iron feast blood thirsty dictatorship for as long as you think appropriate so that eventually they might move to a western type democracy? Do you believe that that is what our main ally Russia wants?
  As I said before, my concern is the people of Armenia and their fate. The population of Armenia today is less than 2.5 mn that is almost 40% less than what it was ten/fifteen years ago and the pace unfortunately keeps descending. Half of the work force is unemployed and most of all there is neither prospect nor hope for improvement. Social security, medicare are non existent scarce commodities. These are only few of Armenia's basic but critical matters for its future and its existence and that is not an exaggeration. Over and above all these critical problems, you have wide spread terrorism imposed by the karabach clan which did not shy and slaughtered innocent, unarmed and unprotected Armenians. They were the ones who brutally attacked and shot at murdering peaceful demonstrators who did not agree based on tangible evidence (foreign independent sources confirm) on the outcome of the feb.19, '08 election results. Perhaps you can enlighten me who's according to you after a bloody takeover a coup d'etat? There are a few ex soviet era european countries which despite their corrupted governments, they have been able to move forward and have build up to an extent, a democratic process bearable to its people.
  I truly hope and I cannot stress it more that under this regime the worst is over for Armenia and its HEROIC PEOPLE. I have to be honest with myself, I doubt it.
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   ARAXIA wrote:
  
  • Henry
    Point taken. but I prefer to support the 'people'. How long are they supposed to suffer and get screwed. Besides, 1/3 of them have left the country!!!!! Does anyone realize how serious this is????
    for info: I am not an armchair critic. Until last year I had a business there and I closed it because I was sick and tired of the system. And the best people I had have now left the country or are planning to do so!!! YOu can't just replace them by robots.
  
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  The matter is who have strength and dignity will take lead and will scout on front, but others will follow.
  The imagination and fantasia will stubborn the dignity and strength, that will lead to the far place just for survival.
  Robots shall work for real people, the real men will think how to use robots…
  
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   Philip Karayan wrote:
  
  • ARAXIA
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    The matter is who have strength and dignity will take lead and will scout on front, but others will follow.
    The imagination and fantasia will stubborn the dignity and strength, that will lead to the far place just for survival.
    Robots shall work for real people, the real men will think how to use robots…
  
  Araxia,
  What the hell are you talking about? Can you be more specific?
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  [quote=Alex]I can't believe all these arm-chair critics from Diaspora think they're entitled to make ignorant comments like what Philip and Henry are doing. What you want is not Democracy, but a bloody takeover of the country by LTP. LTP is a proven slime-bag and I fail to see how his version of the Democracy will be any better. Both LTP and RK have been known to run Kleptocracies. You may dream about Western-fed notions of Democracy, but you fail to understand is that during their nation building phases all those countries went through very similar government styles. As an arm-chair critic not unlike you, I prefer to support RK and SS anytime over LTP.[/quote
  Dear Alex
  Your comments are correct several time wrote and explained that we do'nt have a democratic country we are still in the making one. the LTB followres start to use impolite language one of them is this hay guy what a character...
  If LTB continues his rebelious/undemocratic behaviiour he simply is confirming that he is the enemy of the nation and is behaving like a common criminal.in democracy this kind of behaviour is not allowed other than probably in his own bible.
  it seems to me that a foreigne force is playing with this guy's head, and is becomming an instrument of that force.
  Mihran
  
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   Philip Karayan wrote:
  Mirhan,
  What a sensitive fellow you are. You are concerned about the impolite language!!! of LTB and apparently you do not give a damn to the fact that RK and SS and their brutal regime slaughtered fellow Armenians. I have never heard this. It is really pathetic.
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  
  • Philip Karayan
    Mirhan, What a sensitive fellow you are. You are concerned about the impolite language!!! of LTB and apparently you do not give a damn to the fact that RK and SS and their brutal regime slaughtered fellow Armenians. I have never heard this. It is really pathetic.
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  philip
  I am sensitive to the foule language that is being used by some individuals.that kind of a language is not adequate to communicate with any audience . as far as (RK/SS BRUTAL REGIME YOU ARE STATING), the so called brutal regime tried to keep law and order after 11 days of abuse of democracy. the point is who started the disobeediance first the police or the LTB supporters.let me reminde you LTB's behaviour during his presidency for a (SECOND TERM) against Vazken Manoukian. LTB did'nt provide 11 days to respect democracy.... within six hours he brought in the police force using tear gasses and bastons. the reason fire arms were'nt used is because Vazken's supporters (CONSIDERED THE SECURTY OF ARMENIA BEFORE THEIR PERSONEL INTERESTS)and did'nt resort to violence.Vazken was more balanced a person.in contrast LTB said to his supporters. from this point I am going to the presidential palce get out you gang of GHARABAGHTSY criminals.this is not democracy or nation loving. do you consider LTB to be a lover of democracy or A TOOL OF AN EXTERNAL POWER ....?
  Mihran
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   sergik@sergik.kb wrote:
  Serzh Sargsyan is a Dictator who pretends that he and his government and his friend Robert are democratic, but in practice they act like Saddam did.
  They even don't understand what means word democrat, otherwise they didn't shoot on peacful demonstrates, make violence, encourage criminal, corruption. At this moment Armenia has become a to cleptokratia, where free press, speech, opinion are limited, everyone should act as Serzh Sargsyan and Robert Qocharyan like. There is now acting law, the law is the Serzh and Robert