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Published on May 24, 2008

LEVON HAKOB TER-PETROSYAN OR LEVON FRAYIM PLISKOVSKY?


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  •  182 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     MIHRAN wrote:
    ASTONISHING INFORMATION......
    All LTBtbers are now screeming this ia all Dashnag lies .....
    I always wondered....after the collapse of the soviet union,LTB and Arzu our leadres wifes are of jewish origins.Having unbiased attitude towards the jews. I said why not? you know love is blind....
    what is most astonishing is the roots of LTB parents.It's confusing and unbelievable.Why did he change his name to be a priests son? TER BEDROSSIAN? So they are (TURKS OF JEWISH ORIGINS).
    I personally believe that the jews are smart people and know where?their bottom line interests are ...
    Mihran
  •  182 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     MIHRAN wrote:
    ASTONISHING INFORMATION......All LTBtbers are now screeming this ia all Dashnag lies ..... I always wondered....after the collapse of the soviet union,LTB and Arzu our leadres wifes are of jewish origins.Having unbiased attitude towards the jews. I said why not? you know love is blind.... what is most astonishing is the roots of LTB parents.It's confusing and unbelievable.Why did he change his name to be a priests son? TER BEDROSSIAN? So they are (TURKS OF JEWISH ORIGINS). I personally believe that the jews are smart people and know where their bottom line interests are ... addendum: if the above informations are false,ltb in regrd to his familly roots.as for arz in regard to his wife's jewish origin, we probably should conclude that in regard to Arzu, it's none of our business about his wife's origin it is his private life ! FAIR... Nothing wrong of being a person of jewish origin to be our leader or the wives of our leaders,but they need to work for the national intersts Armenia ... Mihran
  •  182 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     Rafael wrote:
    Actually Mihran, if you're well versed in Armenian politics you would know that its not dashnaks that came up with the lie, its HHK, I have their whole propaganda on video, of his LTP father was a traitor and his forefathers help orchistrate the Armenian Genocide. If you want to believe such laughable lies, you're welcome to do so, but I highly doubt that LTP's ancestors were behind the Armenian Genocide, or that LTP is secretly a Jewish spy
    • MIHRAN
      ASTONISHING INFORMATION......All LTBtbers are now screeming this ia all Dashnag lies .....
      I always wondered....after the collapse of the soviet union,LTB and Arzu our leadres wifes are of jewish origins.Having unbiased attitude towards the jews. I said why not? you know love is blind....
      what is most astonishing is the roots of LTB parents.It's confusing and unbelievable.Why did he change his name to be a priests son? TER BEDROSSIAN? So they are (TURKS OF JEWISH ORIGINS).
      I personally believe that the jews are smart people and know where?their bottom line interests are ...
      Mihran

  •  182 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     Rafael wrote:
    So we have a mason who is supported by Jews, and on the other hand have a Karabaghtsi that has no regard for local Armenians (the fact that he allowed L'fik Samo to fire in a open crowd) that is supported by thugs. I thought SS might have done away with 'muk' but then I find out he gave him a new position, Chief of Staff to the president. Hail to SS, dodi gago, nemets Rubo, Lfik Samo, Tsaghik Rubo, Hovik 'muk' abrahamyan, Hail to Hakop 'Choit' Hakobyan.
    LTP will never be president, his best chance is a oppositional figure.
  •  182 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     Rafael wrote:
    This article makes many claims not can not be verified, but i've found one that is baseless
    "Furthermore, the Jewish-Masonic lobby is currently using the same aggressiveness to have the Council of Europe deprive the Armenian delegation of the right to vote"
    LTP recently asked the CoE and USAID to not penalize Armenia for the political crisis, and withdraw funds. What this article is saying clearly negates what LTP said. If in fact LTP/JML are on the same corner why does then JML demand the negation of Armenia's right to vote, as the author assumes here, while LTP says the exact opposite. This piece of info belongs with the top baseless claims that our 'professional' Armenian reporters make. My favorite is by Gevorg Altunian from ARMENIATV, who said that voting for HR 106 (Armenian genocide bill) is useless because Bush will veto the Bill!!! Altunyan didn't even bother to read the duty of the US legislative brance, which gives congress, the right to implement non-biding resolutions for congressional records, RESOLUTIONS THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN NOT VETO!
  •  181 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     MIHRAN wrote:
    • Rafael
      This article makes many claims not can not be verified, but i've found one that is baseless"Furthermore, the Jewish-Masonic lobby is currently using the same aggressiveness to have the Council of Europe deprive the Armenian delegation of the right to vote"
      LTP recently asked the CoE and USAID to not penalize Armenia for the political crisis, and withdraw funds. What this article is saying clearly negates what LTP said. If in fact LTP/JML are on the same corner why does then JML demand the negation of Armenia's right to vote, as the author assumes here, while LTP says the exact opposite. This piece of info belongs with the top baseless claims that our 'professional' Armenian reporters make. My favorite is by Gevorg Altunian from ARMENIATV, who said that voting for HR 106 (Armenian genocide bill) is useless because Bush will veto the Bill!!! Altunyan didn't even bother to read the duty of the US legislative brance, which gives congress, the right to implement non-biding resolutions for congressional records, RESOLUTIONS THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN NOT VETO!

    Rafael
    I do want to believe you...., but at tha same time,i feel that we are not honest people, within all this infos-misinfos the real truth lies with one side and not with both.
    How come we have this much discrepencies in understanding how to run a small country like ours.
    This kind of information can't be invented out of scratch? it should have a hair of truth somewhere? yet if it has some truth why did he changed his name to be the son of a priest,he could have kept his name,and with an open forhead run our country,he was born in armenia and HAS SOMMMMM...armenian interests in mind,and a certain ammount of popularity in the poles...
    shame shame shame to LTB if he indeed is of jewish origin and PLAYING GAMES WITH OUR COUNTY'S FUTURE,equally shames to hayots ashkhar if it is pure lie as you are trying to explain.
    POLITICS IS POLITICS BUT DO WE HAVE HONEST PEOPLE LEFT IN ARMENIA ? SO WE COULD RESPECT AND BE RESPECTED?
    MIHRAN
  •  181 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     mjasnik wrote:
    ok we are all armenians here.
    lets loook at the facts.
    Lewon is a traitor. (thats 4 sure)
    His wife is a jew (no offence)
    Jewish flag at the place where people started making the whole city into a rubish dump (still no offens)
    Lewon did nothing to stop this or avoid it.
    He is trying to spread armenians apart 4 example the karabagcy armenians
    javatkcy armenians and spurkahayer. so hes traying to make armenia weaker.
    He got good children of armenia killed who would give theyr life to protect it.
    So what im trying to say is jew or no jew I dont care
    Smoke the sucker! (may he burn in hell)
    Even if he is pure armenian he deserves to be smoked over and over and over.
    and if u dont agree than ur a ter pedrosian urself
  •  181 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     MIHRAN wrote:
    • mjasnik
      ok we are all armenians here.lets loook at the facts.
      Lewon is a traitor. (thats 4 sure)
      His wife is a jew (no offence)
      Jewish flag at the place where people started making the whole city into a rubish dump (still no offens)
      Lewon did nothing to stop this or avoid it.
      He is trying to spread armenians apart 4 example the karabagcy armenians
      javatkcy armenians and spurkahayer. so hes traying to make armenia weaker.
      He got good children of armenia killed who would give theyr life to protect it.
      So what im trying to say is jew or no jew I dont care
      Smoke the sucker! (may he burn in hell)
      Even if he is pure armenian he deserves to be smoked over and over and over.
      and if u dont agree than ur a ter pedrosian urself

    Mjasnik
    I personnally believe that LTB is doing things that is not correct, and honest,see some people disagree with me.Rafael stunchly believes that SS stole the votes,i believe that SS is the ellect president,my best choice would have been Markarian or Manoukian. if we compare the quality of the ellections they are far away to be world class.I believe we had the best quality if we are to compare with the previuos ones.other than LTB's rebelliouse acttitude and he keeps continuing like.....
    Now LTB'S ORIGIN ISSUE :Why sombody has to hide his TRUE name,even if LTB has indeed changed his name feering of the nazis than..., he had to aknowledge and set the recrd straigt,it is becoming to complicated to swallow all this nonsense.and i don't believe that all this is pure lies. their had to be a hair of truth in it..
    Mihran
  •  175 days before |  remove (5) |  reply
     MIHRAN wrote:
    [quote=MIHRAN]Rafael
    I do want to believe you...., but at tha same time,i feel that we are not honest people, within all this infos-misinfos the real truth lies with one side and not with both.
    How come we have this much discrepencies in understanding how to run a small country like ours.
    This kind of information can't be invented out of scratch? it should have a hair of truth somewhere? yet if it has some truth why did he changed his name to be the son of a priest,he could have kept his name,and with an open forhead run our country,he was born in armenia and HAS SOMMMMM...armenian interests in mind,and a certain ammount of popularity in the poles...
    shame shame shame to LTB if he indeed is of jewish origin and PLAYING GAMES WITH OUR COUNTY'S FUTURE,equally shames to hayots ashkhar if it is pure lie as you are trying to explain.
    POLITICS IS POLITICS BUT DO WE HAVE HONEST PEOPLE LEFT IN ARMENIA ? SO WE COULD RESPECT AND BE RESPECTED?
    MIHRAN[/quote
    Rafael
    I once told you that LTB a relative of my sister in law by mariage (khnamitouiamp).
    the relationship is as such. LTB is the 1rst cousin of my sister inlaws MORKOUYR'S husband.
    My sister's morkouyr's name is AZADOUHI KALAIJYAN.
    AZADOUHI KALAIJYAN'S husband's name is levon ter bedrossian. THE 1RST COUSIN OF OUR EX.PRESISDENT LEVON TER BEDROSSIAN.
    in other words these two levon's fathres are two brothers our ex. president's father's name is GARABED AND HIS MOTHER'S NAME IS SIMA.
    Having found out about these info's it doesn't change my stand in regard's to his poitics during the ellectoral campaigne ,the contrary if by pure chance i meet him face to face i will criticise his acts,just to heare LTB'S version...and if they are any different from the one's published in our newspapers.
    Mihran

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