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   Rafael wrote:
  Mr. Hovhannisyan,
  I think it will be wise for you to also mention that LTP has struggled for the Armenian Genocide during USSR, when RK and SS didn't even know what genocide meant. I would agree that LTP isn't the most patriotic and hardlining politician, but it is worth mentioning his early years. One simply can not write what he hears, unless he knows Mr. LTP personally, and you Mr. Hovhannisyan don't know LTP personally.
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   ArAzArM wrote:
  
  • Rafael
    Mr. Hovhannisyan,I think it will be wise for you to also mention that LTP has struggled for the Armenian Genocide during USSR, when RK and SS didn't even know what genocide meant. I would agree that LTP isn't the most patriotic and hardlining politician, but it is worth mentioning his early years. One simply can not write what he hears, unless he knows Mr. LTP personally, and you Mr. Hovhannisyan don't know LTP personally.
  
  10 years is not enough to know a man personally? Where have you been Raffaelo, when A-hole was our president.
  
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  
  • Rafael
    Mr. Hovhannisyan,I think it will be wise for you to also mention that LTP has struggled for the Armenian Genocide during USSR, when RK and SS didn't even know what genocide meant. I would agree that LTP isn't the most patriotic and hardlining politician, but it is worth mentioning his early years. One simply can not write what he hears, unless he knows Mr. LTP personally, and you Mr. Hovhannisyan don't know LTP personally.
  
  RAFAEL
  MY RECOLLECTION OF HIM.HE FEELS HOHOURED WHENEVER HE TALKS WITH ANY TURKISH AUTORITHY UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE ORDINARY ARMENIANS WHO FEEL THE SAME AND THIS SHOULD'NT BE ACCEPTABLE TO ANY DESCENT ARMENIAN UNDER THE PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES THIS IS TAVAJANOUTIOUN. ARMENIANS SHOULD GET RID OF THIS STUPIT COMPLEX. I HAVE RUN A CORPORATE BUISNESS FOR A AMERICAN MULTINATIONAL WE HAD SOME TURKISH PEOPLE THEY FELT THE NEED TO BE CLOSE WITH ME NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND I NEVER CHEWED MY WORDS IN EXPLAINING THE GENOCIDE TO THEM AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION THEY TOLD ME YES WE KNOW YOU ARE WRIGHT . IF I KNOW LTB YES I DO HE IS UNFORTUNATELY THE HUSBAND OF A CLOSE RELATIVE OF US.I HEAR ALOT ABOUT HIM THE GOOD AND THE BAD...
  MIHRAN
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   Avo wrote:
  First of all, this article is talking about nonsense. First of all, the grey wolves ale a ultranationalist turkish groups who HATE Armenians, Greeks, Jews, Kurds, and everyone that was massacred during the Armenian Genocide (not all were Armenians, as some of you ignorant Armenians may not know). Thus, for LTP to have a deal with grey wolves is like George Bush having a secret meeting with bin Laden. This is useless propoganda from 12 years ago that had no consequences or results that the author is trying to denounce LTP. Instead of concentrating on what turkey wrote or didn't write in the newspaper, let's concentrate of what H1 said or didn't say. Let's concentrate on root causes of consequences and results of October 27, February 19 elections rigging, and March 1 events. What LTP did or did not do 12 years ago with Grey wolves is irrelevant and baseless.
  And for those that think speaking fluent Turkish is an Armenian crime, then you need to realize that there are over 50,000 Armenians living in Turkey who are proud to be Armenian and go to Armenian Church and live for the Armenian cause. Does Hrant Dink ring a bell? and his name does not even end in "ian" or "yan". I speak fluent turkish myself because my grandfather was a survivor of the genocide and he hardly spoke Armenian until he migrated back to Hayastan in the 40's. And to call LTP a traiter because he speaks Turkish is immature. LTP speaks more than just Turkish and Armenian. He speaks English, French, Arabic, and many more. How does that make him a traitor? SS & RK is uncomparable with LTP.
  Speaking of Turkey, When LTP becomes president and his term finishes he is going to be one of the biggest heroes of Armenia just like Ataturk is to Turkey. And that's a promise.
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  [quote=Avo]First of all, this article is talking about nonsense. First of all, the grey wolves ale a ultranationalist turkish groups who HATE Armenians, Greeks, Jews, Kurds, and everyone that was massacred during the Armenian Genocide (not all were Armenians, as some of you ignorant Armenians may not know). Thus, for LTP to have a deal with grey wolves is like George Bush having a secret meeting with bin Laden. This is useless propoganda from 12 years ago that had no consequences or results that the author is trying to denounce LTP. Instead of concentrating on what turkey wrote or didn't write in the newspaper, let's concentrate of what H1 said or didn't say. Let's concentrate on root causes of consequences and results of October 27, February 19 elections rigging, and March 1 events. What LTP did or did not do 12 years ago with Grey wolves is irrelevant and baseless. And for those that think speaking fluent Turkish is an Armenian crime, then you need to realize that there are over 50,000 Armenians living in Turkey who are proud to be Armenian and go to Armenian Church and live for the Armenian cause. Does Hrant Dink ring a bell? and his name does not even end in "ian" or "yan". I speak fluent turkish myself because my grandfather was a survivor of the genocide and he hardly spoke Armenian until he migrated back to Hayastan in the 40's. And to call LTP a traiter because he speaks Turkish is immature. LTP speaks more than just Turkish and Armenian. He speaks English, French, Arabic, and many more. How does that make him a traitor? SS & RK is uncomparable with LTP.
  Speaking of Turkey, When LTP becomes president and his term finishes he is going to be one of the biggest heroes of Armenia just like Ataturk is to Turkey. And that's a promise.[/quote
  DEAR AVO
  YOU ARE MISSING MY POINT I SPEAK FLUENT TURKISH LEARNED FROM MY GRANDPARENTS AND AN ADDTIONAL 3 OR 4 LNAGUAGES LEARNED AT SCHOOL.WHEN IT COMES TO TURKISH.... UNLESS THAT TURKISH INDIVIDUAL WILL REASON OUR GENOCIDE PERSONALY. I DO'NT EVEN PRETEND KNOWING TURKISH ONLY FOR MY (AMOUIR PROPRE)NOT HATE.AND BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF THE BUSINESS I WAS DOING I INDEED HAVE HAD TURKISH FRIENDS...AND THEY REASONED OUR GENOCIDE THESE ARE HIGHLY EDUCATED TURKISH INDIVIDUALS. YOU ARE REFERING TO ARMENIANS IN TURKEY MY COUSINS ARE IN TURKEY.... AND HAVE GREAT RESPECT TO THEM AND THEIR 30 SOME CHURCHES THEIR HOSPITAL THEIR GREAT LOVE TO BE ARMENIANS.AS FOR HRANT DINK HE IS AN ARMENIAN HERO.
  IF THE STORY GIVEN ABOVE IS TRUE IT SEEMS THAT YOU DISAGREE TOTALLY AND EVERY SERIOUS ARMENIAN KNOW WHO THESE GREY WOLVED PEOPLE ARE.
  THE FINAL POINT:OUR PRESIDENT CAN NOT SHOULD NOT AND NEVER SHOULD TRY TO SPEAK TURKISH EVEN TO THE TURKISH PRESIDENT OR ANY DIPLOMAT. NO NICEITIES UNTILL OUR GENOCIDE COMES TO IT'S FINALL AND GRACEFULL CONCLUSION.
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   Avo wrote:
  Mr. Miran Please turn off your ALLCAPS, try to spell correctly, and place a space after each period. Common writing etiquette.
  What does speaking turkish have to do anything with accepting genocide? They speak turkish in Uzbekistan too. That means they are supporting Turkey? If you happened to be in Uzbekistan you can't speak turkish? It's just a language and form of communication. If I speak with a turkish guy in turkish who denies the turkish genocide, that makes me support the genocide? Your point is not making sense. Actually I think it even makes a statement that the reason we know turkish is because our ancestors at one point used to live in Turkey. Still, nothing to do with genocide.
  Again, the whole article is non-sense because there is no results or consequences. There was no proposal made to make any memorial or anything.
  I ask you to concentrate on October 27 results and consequences, February 19 fraud results and consequences, March 1 results and consequences. Those are the real issues affecting our country, not some article about 12 years ago that is just a bunch of words. I can tell you that Robert Kocharyan wanted to sell Karabagh for $12 trillion dollars and post it in a newspaper. Serzh secretly wanted to quit presidency but Robert didn't allow him. Is it true or not? Who knows and who cares. The results don't indicate anything and they are baseless claims. Not to mention, the newspaper "hayots ashkharh" is Major biased pro-government, anti-opposition newspaper. All the articles that they write is a load of crap. I would never buy anything from these types of magazines or TV channels such as "sH1". I call it "sut H1" or sH1. They are either based on lies, skewing the truth, or not reporting at all.
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  
  • Avo
    Mr. Miran Please turn off your ALLCAPS, try to spell correctly, and place a space after each period. Common writing etiquette.What does speaking turkish have to do anything with accepting genocide? They speak turkish in Uzbekistan too. That means they are supporting Turkey? If you happened to be in Uzbekistan you can't speak turkish? It's just a language and form of communication. If I speak with a turkish guy in turkish who denies the turkish genocide, that makes me support the genocide? Your point is not making sense. Actually I think it even makes a statement that the reason we know turkish is because our ancestors at one point used to live in Turkey. Still, nothing to do with genocide.
    Again, the whole article is non-sense because there is no results or consequences. There was no proposal made to make any memorial or anything.
    I ask you to concentrate on October 27 results and consequences, February 19 fraud results and consequences, March 1 results and consequences. Those are the real issues affecting our country, not some article about 12 years ago that is just a bunch of words. I can tell you that Robert Kocharyan wanted to sell Karabagh for $12 trillion dollars and post it in a newspaper. Serzh secretly wanted to quit presidency but Robert didn't allow him. Is it true or not? Who knows and who cares. The results don't indicate anything and they are baseless claims. Not to mention, the newspaper "hayots ashkharh" is Major biased pro-government, anti-opposition newspaper. All the articles that they write is a load of crap. I would never buy anything from these types of magazines or TV channels such as "sH1". I call it "sut H1" or sH1. They are either based on lies, skewing the truth, or not reporting at all.
  
  Dear Mr Avo
  We ar'nt writing books for publicity I am not a young man to remember my english spelling perfectly well.and do'nt intend to use microsoft spelling programe for corrections or grammar.Do'nt try to be my teacher, it's ugly,you do'nt like my writng do'nt read it only explains your are nerveous and have a complex charachter.
  My point is.It's not correct for the presidsent of Armenia to talk in turkish with his counterpart or to any turkish diplomat.You want to ignore the importance of this point,and are concentrating on UNSIGNIFICANT peripheral issues.we do'nt need to know who else talks turkish besides turkey the majority of Armenians know that already.
  Mihran
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   Rafael wrote:
  
  • ArAzArM
    10 years is not enough to know a man personally? Where have you been Raffaelo, when A-hole was our president.
  
  Arararm, you know of LTP for 10 years as your president, you see him on TV, in gatherings during the USSR, and you call the personally, were you in his inner circle (HHSH party)? If not then you dont know LTP personally
  
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   Rafael wrote:
  Here is the sad fact, while the Diaspora (mostly Dashnaks) are concentrating on this genocide issue, the fact of the matter is that during the 1990's there was a 'white genocide' that occured in Armenia, and now the future of our country is more important than 1915. Im not undermining 1915 but, the Diaspora needs to realize that if they dont influence politics in Armenia, then they might not have an Armenia...This sad situation occurs in many regional areas where the Armenian disporean community calls him. Instead of organizing your annual genocide commemoration plans, try visiting your country. I know of people who are in teir 70's and have never been in Armenia, and they are the heads of such Diasporeans organizations.
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   avo wrote:
  mr. Mihran. Thanks fit turning off your ALLCAPS. You still need to work on your spelling and space after a period. Anyhow, you still don't make sense about why any armenian shouldn't speak Turkish to a Turkish diplomat regardless of accepting the genocide or not. What if the Armenian and the Turkish diplomat both speak Swahili. Can they communicate in Swahili? It seems like you are looking for any minute reason to criticize and defame LTP. Its probably because he kicked the dashnaks out of Armenia during his rule. But truth will prevail and he will prevail and get the dashnaks completely out of Armenia bc you are thetwo faced cancers of our people. You are never onthe side of the Armenian citizens along with the Armenian church shame on you all.
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  
  • avo
    mr. Mihran. Thanks fit turning off your ALLCAPS. You still need to work on your spelling and space after a period. Anyhow, you still don't make sense about why any armenian shouldn't speak Turkish to a Turkish diplomat regardless of accepting the genocide or not. What if the Armenian and the Turkish diplomat both speak Swahili. Can they communicate in Swahili? It seems like you are looking for any minute reason to criticize and defame LTP. Its probably because he kicked the dashnaks out of Armenia during his rule. But truth will prevail and he will prevail and get the dashnaks completely out of Armenia bc you are thetwo faced cancers of our people. You are never onthe side of the Armenian citizens along with the Armenian church shame on you all.
  
  Mr Avo
  At least you are honest enought to express your anti tachnag feelings . I want to believe that in your mind,you are a ex.Comunist or an Armenian from Turkey (BECAUSE YOU WERE VERY UPSET ABOUT THE CRITICISM FOR THE USE OF TURKISH LANGUAGE).
  Tachnags/Ramgavrs/Hunchag's survived. They have established themselves in our homland,against all pressure exsercised by your beloved pro turkish ltb.I am certain this is not news for you.
  Reminder:I had difficulty to read 3rd word,please do take the additional moment,and try to elliminate your typo's we ar'nt allowed please.
  Mihran
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   doctor wrote:
  Looks like Mr. Avo does not understand the difference
  between President of the Republic of Armenia speaking
  turkish with a turk official and any other armenian
  individual doing that in a non-formal situation. Mr.
  Avo who is so sensitive to spelling mistakes and
  spaces after periods should learn a little more about
  diplomacy and interstate relations.
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  
  • doctor
    Looks like Mr. Avo does not understand the difference between President of the Republic of Armenia speaking
    turkish with a turk official and any other armenian
    individual doing that in a non-formal situation. Mr.
    Avo who is so sensitive to spelling mistakes and
    spaces after periods should learn a little more about
    diplomacy and interstate relations.
  
  DOCTOR
  You are fantastic Doctor ... your prescription is also good . our Avo friend thought he will batter me with his egoistic criticism,i forgiave him and kept my line of conduct straight to my subject matter , yet he concludes that he did'nt understand my logic... your interference was timly.Hope he will come back on two of us,may i suggest him to be tactfull in regard (TO OUR OR MY)spelling comas/points/final points points, where we need to start with a capital letter.
  Mihran
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   Nova wrote:
  
  • Rafael
    Here is the sad fact, while the Diaspora (mostly Dashnaks) are concentrating on this genocide issue, the fact of the matter is that during the 1990's there was a 'white genocide' that occured in Armenia, and now the future of our country is more important than 1915. Im not undermining 1915 but, the Diaspora needs to realize that if they dont influence politics in Armenia, then they might not have an Armenia...This sad situation occurs in many regional areas where the Armenian disporean community calls him. Instead of organizing your annual genocide commemoration plans, try visiting your country. I know of people who are in teir 70's and have never been in Armenia, and they are the heads of such Diasporeans organizations.
  
  What is your story with Tashnags? You keep repeating the same comments over and over (Oh the Tashnags and their concentration on the Genocide, oh the diasporans who know nothing about Armenia, me, me, me, i've been there, i've done this,i've done that) you know what? sorry to tell you this, but you are just full of yourself. You are not the only diasporan who visited Armenia couple of times on humanitarian missions. Hundreds of people doing it every year, most of them TASHNAGS. Maybe you missed what they have done when it comes to constructions in Armania, or you are simply ignoring it for very known reasons to me.
  Cticizing Tashnags for their work related to genocide is just a disgrace. Remember, people like you used to do the same thing for over 100 years criticizing Tashnags for the yerakouyn and the national anthem, while Tashnags trying to keep our national values alive, you did not save anything to kill it, you hanged the yerakouyn on your toilette doores, remember? I guess not and all of a sudden, you are all so proude of that yerakouyn and sing the national anthem everywhere.
  I guess, when finaly the internatonal community acknowledges the Genocide and Turkey starts paying for it, you and your brothers in arm will try to take the credits for yourselves. I just feel pitty on people like you, who don't even have the guts and morals to give credits where it's due.
  I wish you good luck with your humanitarian missions to Armenia, but remember, you are not the only one.
  
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   MIHRAN wrote:
  
  • Nova
    What is your story with Tashnags? You keep repeating the same comments over and over (Oh the Tashnags and their concentration on the Genocide, oh the diasporans who know nothing about Armenia, me, me, me, i've been there, i've done this,i've done that) you know what? sorry to tell you this, but you are just full of yourself. You are not the only diasporan who visited Armenia couple of times on humanitarian missions. Hundreds of people doing it every year, most of them TASHNAGS. Maybe you missed what they have done when it comes to constructions in Armania, or you are simply ignoring it for very known reasons to me.
    Cticizing Tashnags for their work related to genocide is just a
    disgrace. Remember, people like you used to do the same thing for over 100 years criticizing Tashnags for the yerakouyn and the national anthem, while Tashnags trying to keep our national values alive, you did not save anything to kill it, you hanged the yerakouyn on your toilette doores, remember? I guess not and all of a sudden, you are all so proude of that yerakouyn and sing the national anthem everywhere.
    I guess, when finaly the internatonal community acknowledges the Genocide and Turkey starts paying for it, you and your brothers in arm will try to take the credits for yourselves. I just feel pitty on people like you, who don't even have the guts and morals to give credits where it's due.
    I wish you good luck with your humanitarian missions to Armenia, but remember, you are not the only one.
  
  Bravo Nova excellent recap.Negativism against tashnags always exsisted and always had been overcome,for tashangs it's deja vu common senes will take care ...
  Mihran
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   Rafael wrote:
  Well let me begin with this…First the Armenian national anthem that you are proudly proclaiming, isn’t even a Armenian Song, second if you show the lyrics to anyone else they’ll think it’s a song by Hamas or Hezbullah (“People die only once. Lucky are the ones who die”). Me Me Me? Well Pashnol na xoi jobin Dashnak! It is a true personal fact, that most of the Diasporeans are out of touch with reality in Armenia, and the Dashnaks usually say, oh the corruption and gov’t is so bad there? Well if its so bad why is you party engaging them in a coalition? The reason I say I don’t this and that is because most Armenians do shit! Sorry to tell you but not 100’s of people are doing it! Actually I heard from a AYF member in Chicago, that while attending AYF camp, the kids made a porn video there…so when you say Dashnaks keep our national values alive…is this what you mean? In terms of Genocide, try to avoid the lobbies of the Marriot and Ani hotel when you visit Armenia (as many Dashnak spurks tend to congregate there) and walk the streets and talk to people to see what they think of Dashnaks. Ask Armenian Historians there about Dashnaks and the collusion with young turks, and you might be surprised the answer they give you. Unless you speak of humanitarian constructions…the construction in Yerevan by the Diaspora have brought the following result…your average Armenian family is being kicked out of their homes, so that some ‘elite’ building can be build there! Nova is didn’t hang nothing from my Toilet door, I do recognize the homage that the dashnaks gave to Armenia, but I also recognize how they betrayed Andranik Pasha, forcing him to join the Soviets. Actually Im not proud of our anthem, because its not ours!!! Here’s reality check for you Turkey will never recognize it and US wont either. Now if you think a non-binding resolution by the US congress is it, well you need to check the congressional record archives, I’m sure you’ll find some interesting info there. You feel pity for me? Wow, I’m speechless actually I feel pity for people who are born here, the non-hayastantsi’s that no idea of what “TASIB”, “Gaghapar” and “Chist” is…the ones who tatoo themselves in Armenian flags and Dashnak symbols bayts heto kadzen arnum vorpes kin….that’s who I feel sorry for. I ask you to come to Armenia in July so that I can better show you reality and not the lobby of a safe hotel.
  
  • Nova
    What is your story with Tashnags? You keep repeating the same comments over and over (Oh the Tashnags and their concentration on the Genocide, oh the diasporans who know nothing about Armenia, me, me, me, i've been there, i've done this,i've done that) you know what? sorry to tell you this, but you are just full of yourself. You are not the only diasporan who visited Armenia couple of times on humanitarian missions. Hundreds of people doing it every year, most of them TASHNAGS. Maybe you missed what they have done when it comes to constructions in Armania, or you are simply ignoring it for very known reasons to me.
    Cticizing Tashnags for their work related to genocide is just a disgrace. Remember, people like you used to do the same thing for over 100 years criticizing Tashnags for the yerakouyn and the national anthem, while Tashnags trying to keep our national values alive, you did not save anything to kill it, you hanged the yerakouyn on your toilette doores, remember? I guess not and all of a sudden, you are all so proude of that yerakouyn and sing the national anthem everywhere.
    I guess, when finaly the internatonal community acknowledges the Genocide and Turkey starts paying for it, you and your brothers in arm will try to take the credits for yourselves. I just feel pitty on people like you, who don't even have the guts and morals to give credits where it's due.
    I wish you good luck with your humanitarian missions to Armenia, but remember, you are not the only one.
  
  
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   Rafael wrote:
  Nova and Mihran,
  I'm part of a Armenian community here that is 90% Dashnak, and everywhere despite our differences we come together and plan a April 24 commemoration. Don't think that I'm this anti-Dashnag, I'm a realist and I see major flaws with the Dashnag party. I know both of you were brought up in the dashnag curtain, and it is instinct to label someone is this Dashnag hating person who doesnt understand the Dashnag cause? I understand that a Dashnak is first a dashnak then an Armenian....the outcome of the nationalist teachings as they soon began to develop a notion of its own, I suggest you read more about nationalist parties, and their mentalities.
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   Nova wrote:
  
  • Rafael
    Nova and Mihran,I'm part of a Armenian community here that is 90% Dashnak, and everywhere despite our differences we come together and plan a April 24 commemoration. Don't think that I'm this anti-Dashnag, I'm a realist and I see major flaws with the Dashnag party. I know both of you were brought up in the dashnag curtain, and it is instinct to label someone is this Dashnag hating person who doesnt understand the Dashnag cause? I understand that a Dashnak is first a dashnak then an Armenian....the outcome of the nationalist teachings as they soon began to develop a notion of its own, I suggest you read more about nationalist parties, and their mentalities.
  
  You are realist my azz, go do yourself, i just realised that you are another self centered, blind hater. Thought you were someone with somewhat respectable opinions that i can have a discussion with. Shame, eof discussion
  
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   Alex wrote:
  Avo, You're a dreamer if you think LTP will be a national hero to the nation. Wake up boy, because that's not happening anytime soon!!
  The problem with typical politicians like LTP is that they feel they need to take a balanced approach and appease the turks when it comes to the Genocide recognition. To me all that does is show the other side your weak position. It neither gains respect of the opposite side nor of your own people. I personally don't have any issues with LTP speaking to the turks in any language including turkish. After all, language is just a tool of communication, and what's really important is the content of what's being communicated. On the other hand, I have major issues with any Armenian buying into the turkish denialist stories of "What happened in 1915 was sort of a war(? a civil war?) and both sides suffered because of that". We should know our history well, so we can neither be manipulated by the slimy politicians, nor by the turks.
  
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   Nova wrote:
  
  • Rafael
    Well let me begin with this…First the Armenian national anthem that you are proudly proclaiming, isn’t even a Armenian Song, second if you show the lyrics to anyone else they’ll think it’s a song by Hamas or Hezbullah (“People die only once. Lucky are the ones who die”). Me Me Me? Well Pashnol na xoi jobin Dashnak! It is a true personal fact, that most of the Diasporeans are out of touch with reality in Armenia, and the Dashnaks usually say, oh the corruption and gov’t is so bad there? Well if its so bad why is you party engaging them in a coalition? The reason I say I don’t this and that is because most Armenians do shit! Sorry to tell you but not 100’s of people are doing it! Actually I heard from a AYF member in Chicago, that while attending AYF camp, the kids made a porn video there…so when you say Dashnaks keep our national values alive…is this what you mean? In terms of Genocide, try to avoid the lobbies of the Marriot and Ani hotel when you visit Armenia (as many Dashnak spurks tend to congregate there) and walk the streets and talk to people to see what they think of Dashnaks. Ask Armenian Historians there about Dashnaks and the collusion with young turks, and you might be surprised the answer they give you. Unless you speak of humanitarian constructions…the construction in Yerevan by the Diaspora have brought the following result…your average Armenian family is being kicked out of their homes, so that some ‘elite’ building can be build there! Nova is didn’t hang nothing from my Toilet door, I do recognize the homage that the dashnaks gave to Armenia, but I also recognize how they betrayed Andranik Pasha, forcing him to join the Soviets. Actually Im not proud of our anthem, because its not ours!!! Here’s reality check for you Turkey will never recognize it and US wont either. Now if you think a non-binding resolution by the US congress is it, well you need to check the congressional record archives, I’m sure you’ll find some interesting info there. You feel pity for me? Wow, I’m speechless actually I feel pity for people who are born here, the non-hayastantsi’s that no idea of what “TASIB”, “Gaghapar” and “Chist” is…the ones who tatoo themselves in Armenian flags and Dashnak symbols bayts heto kadzen arnum vorpes kin….that’s who I feel sorry for. I ask you to come to Armenia in July so that I can better show you reality and not the lobby of a safe hotel. <UL class=c> <LI class=italic><STRONG>Nova</STRONG>
    What is your story with Tashnags? You keep repeating the same comments over and over (Oh the Tashnags and their concentration on the Genocide, oh the diasporans who know nothing about Armenia, me, me, me, i've been there, i've done this,i've done that) you know what? sorry to tell you this, but you are just full of yourself. You are not the only diasporan who visited Armenia couple of times on humanitarian missions. Hundreds of people doing it every year, most of them TASHNAGS. Maybe you missed what they have done when it comes to constructions in Armania, or you are simply ignoring it for very known reasons to me.
    Cticizing Tashnags for their work related to genocide is just a disgrace. Remember, people like you used to do the same thing for over 100 years criticizing Tashnags for the yerakouyn and the national anthem, while Tashnags trying to keep our national values alive, you did not save anything to kill it, you hanged the yerakouyn on your toilette doores, remember? I guess not and all of a sudden, you are all so proude of that yerakouyn and sing the national anthem everywhere.
    I guess, when finaly the internatonal community acknowledges the Genocide and Turkey starts paying for it, you and your brothers in arm will try to take the credits for yourselves. I just feel pitty on people like you, who don't even have the guts and morals to give credits where it's due.
    I wish you good luck with your humanitarian missions to Armenia, but remember, you are not the only one.</LI></UL>
  
  Yu are realist? hahahaha, i'm saure you are 19 years old. Porn movie while a camp in Armenia, go do yourself. And oh yeah, idi na xuy blyat.
  
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   Rafael wrote:
  
  • Nova
    Yu are realist? hahahaha, i'm saure you are 19 years old. Porn movie while a camp in Armenia, go do yourself. And oh yeah, idi na xuy blyat.
  
  Ay axpar chuxan, Im not even close to 19, and your dashnak AYF camp was in Chicago not in Hayastan...and that is why when there is a forum of Armenian Dashnak students in hayastan, the moderators dont let them outside, because all of them are freaks when compared to the average Haykakan tgamark. k**** dzer beiruthye, parkahya putanka axchiknera!!! You wanna have a conversation with me, go educate yourself...and not in AYF camps.
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   Nova wrote:
  
  • Rafael
    Ay axpar chuxan, Im not even close to 19, and your dashnak AYF camp was in Chicago not in Hayastan...and that is why when there is a forum of Armenian Dashnak students in hayastan, the moderators dont let them outside, because all of them are freaks when compared to the average Haykakan tgamark. k**** dzer beiruthye, parkahya putanka axchiknera!!! You wanna have a conversation with me, go educate yourself...and not in AYF camps.
  
  Finaly, you dropped your mask and showed the real ugly you. It wasn't hard to figure you out, Kazyol. End of all discussions.
  
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   Rafael wrote:
  
  • Nova
    Finaly, you dropped your mask and showed the real ugly you. It wasn't hard to figure you out, Kazyol. End of all discussions.
  
  i dropped my mask just like your amerikga hye girls drop their panties.
  - Chi'shta mishta!
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   Gabriel wrote:
  
  • Rafael
    i dropped my mask just like your amerikga hye girls drop their panties.
    - Chi'shta mishta!
  
  Let's cut the shit guys.I just wonder why there is not a real man in Armenia to do away with this pervert LTP, his whore wife and his shit supporters?
  Gabriel
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   Rafael wrote:
  
  • Gabriel
    Let's cut the shit guys.I just wonder why there is not a real man in Armenia to do away with this pervert LTP, his whore wife and his shit supporters?
    Gabriel
  
  Before the fallout with Dashnaks...the ARF vastly supported LTP, does that mean we do away with Dashnaks too? What are your grounds that his wife is a whore? and on what account to you claim that his supporters are 'shit'