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Published on July 18, 2008
TALL ORDER: OPPOSITION WANTS TO “TAKE EX-PRESIDENT TO THE HAGUE”
- In what was laughed off by the former president’s office as another act of “foolishness”, Armenia’s radical opposition announced this week a collection of signatures “to have Robert Kocharyan committed for trial” at the international court in the Hague. David Shahnazaryan, a senior representative of the Levon Ter-Petrosyan-led opposition movement, on Monday presented a sample signature paper and was the first to put his signature to it. The opposition accuses Kocharyan of grave crimes “against the state and the Armenian people”, claiming that he produced fake documents on two occasions to become eligible to run for president thus “usurping power”, consolidated “autocratic and despotic rule” with the crime of October 27, 1999 [when eight senior officials, including the then speaker of parliament and prime minister were shot dead by gunmen in the parliament chamber], and established “a real gangster-state regime” in Armenia. “His rule again ended in bloodshed, in a horrendous slaughter on March 1, 2008, which by all its signs is a crime against humanity,” says the petition offered to members of the public for signing. “Therefore, we, the undersigned citizens of the Republic of Armenia, demand an independent international inquiry into the March 1 crime and handing over Robert Kocharyan to the international court in the Hague.” “During the ten years of his presidency and after that he [Kocharyan] has been a destabilizing factor for the country. He is responsible for crimes against people and humanity, therefore his place is in a prison cell in the Hague,” Shahnazaryan charged. In an interview with Mediamax news agency last week, Kocharyan said that on March 1, as incumbent president, he did his duty to defend the constitution and restore law and order in the country. He also said that if he were president, then Ter-Petrosyan would “probably be in prison now for his criminal activities.” “Thereby I would redress the mistake I made in 1998,” he added. Kocharyan’s tirade drew scathing criticism from the opposition that immediately accused the former president of admitting to having had “prosecutorial functions” and, in the final analysis, of complicity to what he himself described as Ter-Petrosyan’s “criminal activities” due to inaction. Remarkably, under Article 56.1 of the Armenian Constitution, the republic’s president is immune and “may not be prosecuted or held liable for actions arising from his/her status during and after his/her term of office.” The president, however, “may be prosecuted for the actions not connected with his or her status after the expiration of his/her term of office.” Artur Sakunts, head of the Vanadzor-based regional branch of the Armenian Helsinki Citizens’ Assembly, thinks that the collection of signatures is more a political than legal process. “The case is to go through all judicial instances in our country and only then can be submitted to the Hague court. A direct claim can be lodged with the Hague court in case of crimes against humanity committed on ethnic grounds. It is a little different in the case with Armenia,” Sakunts explains. And MP Zaruhi Postanjyan, of the opposition Heritage faction, thinks that the collection of signatures is rather a public action, but says the ex-leader “must be punished if his responsibility is proved on the basis of evidence.” “I had submitted a grievance with the Prosecutor-General that a number of officials, including former President Robert Kocharyan, then Prime Minister Serzh Sargsyan, Public Television and Radio Company Board Chairman Alexan Harutyunyan, National Television and Radio Commission Chairman Grigor Amalyan, ex-Defense Minister Mikael Harutyunyan had abused their official positions both with inaction and action, as a result of which the election was rigged and March 1 happened. My application was rejected, but I am going to appeal against this rejection at judicial instances, going up to the European court,” Postanjyan says. The lawmaker with an extensive background as civil rights lawyer says she has already filed a claim with the European court which she asserts exposes Kocharyan’s wrongdoing in declaring a state of emergency in Yerevan. Meanwhile, in a commentary given to RFE/RL, head of Kocharyan’s office Victor Soghomonyan described the latest move by the opposition as “another act of foolishness”. But Shahnazaryan is certain the collection of signatures will proceed with a “multiplication effect” and will have both “legal and political consequences”.
- Gayane Mkrtchyan
Discussion
Abo wrote:
His place is next to Milosevic and the like.
Samwel wrote:- Abo
His place is next to Milosevic and the like.
Abo and how Life in Armenia will change by placing RK next to Milosevic...
well people like you never understood and never will understand "How important role he played in our Armenia history". Well i don't think you care about that or country Armenia at all, then you would not write statement that more beneficial for enemies of our country!- Abo
- ARSHAK-10 wrote:
We are a kind of nation who LOVES to wash his dirty clothes in front of the world. We are NUMBER ONE CRIERS nothing or no one satisfies us. We keep complaining no matter how good the situation is. We NEVER accept defeat and keep revenge in our hearts. We are Armenians. - Abo wrote:
- Samwel
Abo and how Life in Armenia will change by placing RK next to Milosevic...
well people like you never understood and never will understand "How important role he played in our Armenia history". Well i don't think you care about that or country Armenia at all, then you would not write statement that more beneficial for enemies of our country!
Hi Samvel,
Your question is perfectly valid. Allow me to explain my point:
I think (it is my opinion of course) that Robert Koch is truly a criminal. I think he has led Armenia to bankruptcy and liquidation.
But, the question you are asking is 'why we should take him to de Hague'? As Arshak-10 points out it is not good to wash our ... etc
My sincere answer:
IF Armenia had any courts then of course we should have done it in Armenia. But Armenian courts are good subjects for Monty Python sketches not the real world. Any educated person cannot take them seriously. Thanks to Robert Koch.
But still the question remains: why take him to de Hague? The answer is:
So that no other future leader of Armenia can believe that he can get away with any and every imaginable crime against Armenia and Armenians.
That's why. To make sure that SS and whoever comes next think twice before screwing around with Armenia. - Samwel
- Karen wrote:
If you want to take an ex-president to court, you should start with Levon. If RK is taken to court, LTP should not be left out...it wouldn't be fair to the Armenian nation since LTP has damaged our nation far more than RK. What is the reason that you are not including LTP in that list?- Abo
Hi Samvel,
Your question is perfectly valid. Allow me to explain my point:
I think (it is my opinion of course) that Robert Koch is truly a criminal. I think he has led Armenia to bankruptcy and liquidation.
But, the question you are asking is 'why we should take him to de Hague'? As Arshak-10 points out it is not good to wash our ... etc
My sincere answer:
IF Armenia had any courts then of course we should have done it in Armenia. But Armenian courts are good subjects for Monty Python sketches not the real world. Any educated person cannot take them seriously. Thanks to Robert Koch.
But still the question remains: why take him to de Hague? The answer is:
So that no other future leader of Armenia can believe that he can get away with any and every imaginable crime against Armenia and Armenians.
That's why. To make sure that SS and whoever comes next think twice before screwing around with Armenia.
- Abo
- Abo wrote:
- Karen
If you want to take an ex-president to court, you should start with Levon. If RK is taken to court, LTP should not be left out...it wouldn't be fair to the Armenian nation since LTP has damaged our nation far more than RK. What is the reason that you are not including LTP in that list? <UL class=c> <LI class=italic><STRONG>Abo</STRONG>
Hi Samvel,
Your question is perfectly valid. Allow me to explain my point:
I think (it is my opinion of course) that Robert Koch is truly a criminal. I think he has led Armenia to bankruptcy and liquidation.
But, the question you are asking is 'why we should take him to de Hague'? As Arshak-10 points out it is not good to wash our ... etc
My sincere answer:
IF Armenia had any courts then of course we should have done it in Armenia. But Armenian courts are good subjects for Monty Python sketches not the real world. Any educated person cannot take them seriously. Thanks to Robert Koch.
But still the question remains: why take him to de Hague? The answer is:
So that no other future leader of Armenia can believe that he can get away with any and every imaginable crime against Armenia and Armenians.
That's why. To make sure that SS and whoever comes next think twice before screwing around with Armenia.</LI></UL>
You are right, if LTP has committed similar crimes he should be tried too...
The issue is the following: although not a saint, LTP managed to pull together opposition and create some hope of getting rid of the gangsters rulling Armenia. He says he is trying to repair past misdeeds!! I don't have to believe him but as he aims at kicking SS and RK I am more than glad to support him.
We will get RK to de Hague. I am sure of that. See you on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmenianWhiteKnight - Karen
- Karen wrote:
"If LTP committed similar crimes" You must be joking with this statement!
Have you any idea what he put the country through after independence? How ignorant and brainwashed of you. Not sure if this is stupidity or lack of awareness for some kind of a reason, but some Armenians really need to be shaken off from the illusionary world that they are living in. Who cares about the opposition that LTP has put together? So that's how we judge the presidential candidates now based on the type of coalition they have built? Are you joking? How old are you? He's back for ONE reason can't you see? He wants to take care of Karabakh, reduce the Armenian army to only 10,000 as he has clearly stated in one of his rallies, so who cares what type of an opposiion he managed to built? I mean what the hell are you talking about?!?! The questions is the future of Armenias survival, which RK has not given up on, while LTP clearly states what he intends to do! Are you stupid or you simply do not care about the country since you seem to judge LTP based on some BS coaliion he was able to built from getting financing from outside. It also does not scare you that he is working for the outside who have their own interests in Armenia, which can easily oppose our own interests? You people need to start looking at what is going on in Armenia from above to get the real piture and not talk about meaningless things.
I guess it doesn't mean that much for some Armenians out there that LTP is a Zionist agent who is trying to fulfill the wishes of the Zionists in Armenia. That's so disgusting...I'm about to puke!
You deserve to live in a crappy Armenia if you think this way.- Abo
You are right, if LTP has committed similar crimes he should be tried too...
The issue is the following: although not a saint, LTP managed to pull together opposition and create some hope of getting rid of the gangsters rulling Armenia. He says he is trying to repair past misdeeds!! I don't have to believe him but as he aims at kicking SS and RK I am more than glad to support him.
We will get RK to de Hague. I am sure of that. See you on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmenianWhiteKnight
- Abo
- avo wrote:
- Samwel
Abo and how Life in Armenia will change by placing RK next to Milosevic...
well people like you never understood and never will understand "How important role he played in our Armenia history". Well i don't think you care about that or country Armenia at all, then you would not write statement that more beneficial for enemies of our country!
All the positive things that he did for the country like building nice buildings and hotels, anyone could have done, except without increasing corruption and killing people for calling him by his first name. And everything he did was for the purpose of his own pocket. I think you don't understand. - Samwel
- avo wrote:
- Karen
"If LTP committed similar crimes" You must be joking with this statement!Have you any idea what he put the country through after independence? How ignorant and brainwashed of you. Not sure if this is stupidity or lack of awareness for some kind of a reason, but some Armenians really need to be shaken off from the illusionary world that they are living in. Who cares about the opposition that LTP has put together? So that's how we judge the presidential candidates now based on the type of coalition they have built? Are you joking? How old are you? He's back for ONE reason can't you see? He wants to take care of Karabakh, reduce the Armenian army to only 10,000 as he has clearly stated in one of his rallies, so who cares what type of an opposiion he managed to built? I mean what the hell are you talking about?!?! The questions is the future of Armenias survival, which RK has not given up on, while LTP clearly states what he intends to do! Are you stupid or you simply do not care about the country since you seem to judge LTP based on some BS coaliion he was able to built from getting financing from outside. It also does not scare you that he is working for the outside who have their own interests in Armenia, which can easily oppose our own interests? You people need to start looking at what is going on in Armenia from above to get the real piture and not talk about meaningless things.
I guess it doesn't mean that much for some Armenians out there that LTP is a Zionist agent who is trying to fulfill the wishes of the Zionists in Armenia. That's so disgusting...I'm about to puke!
You deserve to live in a crappy Armenia if you think this way.
<UL class=c> <LI class=italic><STRONG>Abo</STRONG>
You are right, if LTP has committed similar crimes he should be tried too...
The issue is the following: although not a saint, LTP managed to pull together opposition and create some hope of getting rid of the gangsters rulling Armenia. He says he is trying to repair past misdeeds!! I don't have to believe him but as he aims at kicking SS and RK I am more than glad to support him.
We will get RK to de Hague. I am sure of that. See you on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmenianWhiteKnight</LI></UL>
You are judging LTP because he was the first president surrounded by mobsters like Vazgen sarkissian and Vano S. Those people are no longer around. If you ask my opinion, the reason things are the way they are today is because of Vazgen Sarkissian, Although there is no reason he should have been assassinated by Robert Kocharian. He miscalculated robert and it blew up on his head. LTP is a different person now. He is not out to build more hotels and sell the Natural resources to Russia. He is out with a different agenda, to lead Armenia to a democratic society with laws that protect the people and not the government. Unfortunately, if it wasn't levon and it was bob or joe, you all would not be against him. However, he is the only one who has the courage and the will to get Armenia to where it needs to be. Look at how scared Serzh Sarkissian is today. If it wasn't for Levon he would keep building hotels like robert. But he's surrounding is so currupt I doubt he will make significant changes to Armenia. If he does, more power to him and that will get Levon to sit down for another 10 years, but this time with a peace of mind. - Karen
- Samwel wrote:
- Abo
... I think (it is my opinion of course) that Robert Koch is truly a criminal.
I think he has led Armenia to bankruptcy and liquidation.
...
I would recommend you instead of thinking and assuming or getting into propaganda victim, just go and do your own independent research on that topic. And I am sure that you can do researches based on experiences form your education. So by doing that you would not say that RK led Armenia to bankruptcy, and so on...- Abo
... We will get RK to de Hague. I am sure of that...
By the way, be very careful by saying "We" because i am not in that "We" and not only me but even the majority of our country. Maximum "You" can get from this a civil war; and guess which side I am going to be! - Abo
- Karen wrote:
LTP knows that he can not take RK to Hague. You don't want to be a rocket scientist to know this, but it seems like Abo isn't getting it!
RK has more power without the foreign backers than LTP. RK backing comes from Kremlin and everyone knows that he's a close friend of Putin, so how the hell would LTP take RK to Hague.
It sounds so absurd that it must only be for PR reasons because, as I said before, LTPs fame is sleeping away day by day.
They will not find anything on RK even if LTP and his idiotic camp tried to find something on him. I doubt that you can be tried in Hague for corruption. For war crimes you can, but what does RK have to do with war crimes anyways!
LTP acts like a lion, but it's merely for a show. I am 100% confident that he's a sheep inside, but he isn't showing it because he knows that the authorities would not dare to touch him, since he's in the 'spotlight' right now. 
Naira wrote:- Karen
"If LTP committed similar crimes" You must be joking with this statement!Have you any idea what he put the country through after independence? How ignorant and brainwashed of you. Not sure if this is stupidity or lack of awareness for some kind of a reason, but some Armenians really need to be shaken off from the illusionary world that they are living in. Who cares about the opposition that LTP has put together? So that's how we judge the presidential candidates now based on the type of coalition they have built? Are you joking? How old are you? He's back for ONE reason can't you see? He wants to take care of Karabakh, reduce the Armenian army to only 10,000 as he has clearly stated in one of his rallies, so who cares what type of an opposiion he managed to built? I mean what the hell are you talking about?!?! The questions is the future of Armenias survival, which RK has not given up on, while LTP clearly states what he intends to do! Are you stupid or you simply do not care about the country since you seem to judge LTP based on some BS coaliion he was able to built from getting financing from outside. It also does not scare you that he is working for the outside who have their own interests in Armenia, which can easily oppose our own interests? You people need to start looking at what is going on in Armenia from above to get the real piture and not talk about meaningless things.
I guess it doesn't mean that much for some Armenians out there that LTP is a Zionist agent who is trying to fulfill the wishes of the Zionists in Armenia. That's so disgusting...I'm about to puke!
You deserve to live in a crappy Armenia if you think this way.
<ul class="c"><li class="italic"><strong>Abo</strong>
You are right, if LTP has committed similar crimes he should be tried too...
The issue is the following: although not a saint, LTP managed to pull together opposition and create some hope of getting rid of the gangsters rulling Armenia. He says he is trying to repair past misdeeds!! I don't have to believe him but as he aims at kicking SS and RK I am more than glad to support him.
We will get RK to de Hague. I am sure of that. See you on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmenianWhiteKnight</li></ul>
LTP said resently that he wants to be a president for 2 or maximum 3 years and then pass it on to a younger person....
Now, does this sound strange to you, Karen? It sure does to me!
After driving the whole nation through this hell, LTP is going to leave without finishing his term. WHY???
It makes me think he is not very keen about presidency at all. He has an agenda, he accomplishes it, gets his "reward" and... leaves, very likely passing it to Alexandr Arzoumanian.
Who will ellect a U.S. president who confesses that his going to leave in the middle of his term?
WHY ON EARTH LTP WANTS TO BE A PRESIDENT JUST FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS? WHAT IS IN HIS MIND?.....................- Karen
- Naira wrote:
LTP announced about his intentions of keeping the presidency only for a couple of years on July 4 in his speech from Matenadaran.
I am almost certain his agenda is to "TAKE CARE OF KARABAGH" issue ONCE AND FOR ALL!
Otherwise, for any nation loving president 2-3 years isn't enough time to accomplish much. - Karen wrote:
I think you answered your own questions Naira. Unless you're a nutcase, you do not become a president for few years only. LTP's agenda is clear and open. He stated that Armenia must reduce its military to 10,000 because it doesn't need a large army (have a think about the implications of this for a second!), he also said that Karabakh must be returned to Azeris in order for two countries to peacefully coexist, and some time ago he basically declared that we don't need any national values...or something like that! I will try finding that video where he made these statements on youtube because I saw it myself a while ago.
LTP is basically saying to us that our dead soldiers who were killed in Karabakh and the money which was sent to Armenia by the Diaspora was useless because we should just give back territory without even fighing for it...just hand it back to the Turks. An Armenian with a common sense and some patriotism in him and her should ask why? Why are we obligated to give territory to the Turks when we won it by blood? Haven't we lost too much already? Why would we also intentionally reduce our army? What would be the purpose? As if Armenia's economy will start booming if Armenia doesn't spend money on its defense. That man is psychologically unstable. I would say that his supporters are even worse than him. Isn't it laughable that 5 or 6 out of the 9 murdered people on March 1 were killed for nothing...they gave their lives for LTPs disasterous ideology. I pity the police and the soldier more than the dumb people who gave their lives in the name of NOTHING! Especially, I pity that one soldier (or police) who saved his friends' live by throwing himself on the bomb before it exploded. He's the real hero, but it's so unfortunate that he passed away that way because March 1 was so meaningless in ever sense of it.
Whether or not LTP has something hidden that he wants to accomplish, that I do not know, but I sure know that the above 3 statements are enough for me to know that this man is a detsructive force for our futute well being and he must be stopped at all costs for the sake of our country.
- Naira
LTP said resently that he wants to be a president for 2 or maximum 3 years and then pass it on to a younger person....
Now, does this sound strange to you, Karen? It sure does to me!
After driving the whole nation through this hell, LTP is going to leave without finishing his term. WHY???
It makes me think he is not very keen about presidency at all. He has an agenda, he accomplishes it, gets his "reward" and... leaves, very likely passing it to Alexandr Arzoumanian.
Who will ellect a U.S. president who confesses that his going to leave in the middle of his term?
WHY ON EARTH LTP WANTS TO BE A PRESIDENT JUST FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS? WHAT IS IN HIS MIND?.....................
- Naira
Vrej wrote:- Karen
"If LTP committed similar crimes" You must be joking with this statement!Have you any idea what he put the country through after independence? How ignorant and brainwashed of you. Not sure if this is stupidity or lack of awareness for some kind of a reason, but some Armenians really need to be shaken off from the illusionary world that they are living in. Who cares about the opposition that LTP has put together? So that's how we judge the presidential candidates now based on the type of coalition they have built? Are you joking? How old are you? He's back for ONE reason can't you see? He wants to take care of Ka
rabakh, reduce the Armenian army to only 10,000 as he has clearly stated
in one of his rallies, so who cares what type of an opposiion he managed to built? I mean what the hell are you talking about?!?! The questions is the future of Armenias survival, which RK has not given up on, while LTP clearly states what he intends to do! Are you stupid or you simply do not care about the country since you seem to judge LTP based on some BS coaliion he was able to built from getting financing from outside. It also does not scare you that he is working for the outside who have their own interests in Armenia, which can easily oppose our own interests? You people need to start looking at what is going on in Armenia from above to get the real piture and not talk about meaningless things.
I guess it doesn't mean that much for some Armenians out there that LTP is a Zionist agent who is trying to fulfill the wishes of the Zionists in Armenia. That's so disgusting...I'm about to puke!
You deserve to live in a crappy Armenia if you think this way.
<UL class=c> <LI class=italic><STRONG>Abo</STRONG>
You are right, if LTP has committed similar crimes he should be tried too...
The issue is the following: although not a saint, LTP managed to pull together opposition and create some hope of getting rid of the gangsters rulling Armenia. He says he is trying to repair past misdeeds!! I don't have to believe him but as he aims at kicking SS and RK I am more than glad to support him.
We will get RK to de Hague. I am sure of that. See you on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmenianWhiteKnight</LI></UL>
I believe that we mustn't argue with the followers of psycho LTP. LTP and his pervert followers must he spoken with an extremely harsh languate. With a language full of disrespect and curse. Why waste time and energy trying to make them realize something they would never understand?! They are dirts of the Armenian nation which must be eradicated to save our country. Don't think if you stat to make them clear that who is right and who is wrong they would accept. They already know who is satanic and criminal and country seller(LTP) but since they have perverted minds they genuinely go on defending their false idea. So pls pound them with overwhelming answers.- Karen
- MIHRAN wrote:
- Abo
Hi Samvel,
Your question is perfectly valid. Allow me to explain my point:
I think (it is my opinion of course) that Robert Koch is truly a criminal. I think he has led Armenia to bankruptcy and liquidation.
But, the question you are asking is 'why we should take him to de Hague'? As Arshak-10 points out it is not good to wash our ... etc
My sincere answer:
IF Armenia had any courts then of course we should have done it in Armenia. But Armenian courts are good subjects for Monty Python sketches not the real world. Any educated person cannot take them seriously. Thanks to Robert Koch.
But still the question remains: why take him to de Hague? The answer is:
So that no other future leader of Armenia can believe that he can get away with any and every imaginable crime against Armenia and Armenians.
That's why. To make sure that SS and whoever comes next think twice before screwing around with Armenia.
ABO
all the arguments you are creating to defend LTP is nonsense. your statements are biased and incorect,if a person who could have created the crimes in the parliament ...that person is may be... LTP not Kotcharian .I AM USING THE SAME SIMPLE LOGIC THAT YOU ARE USING.IT MAY ALSO BE INCORRECT....THE PARLIAMENT CRIMES WERE THE WORK OF AN OUTSIDE FORCES ! WAKE UP!
You sure are a soldier for LTP.You should go back to armenia and help this hero of yours,he will need many people like you in order to survive.
Mihran - Abo
- Me wrote:
- Vrej
I believe that we mustn't argue with the followers of psycho LTP. LTP and his pervert followers must he spoken with an extremely harsh languate. With a language full of disrespect and curse. Why waste time and energy trying to make them realize something they would never understand?! They are dirts of the Armenian nation which must be eradicated to save our country. Don't think if you stat to make them clear that who is right and who is wrong they would accept. They already know who is satanic and criminal and country seller(LTP) but since they have perverted minds they genuinely go on defending their false idea. So pls pound them with overwhelming answers.
You are, in all seriousness, suggesting that we eradicate 22% of Armenian citizens residing in Armenia (that's by official numbers, and doesn't include all those abroad who support Levon)? That's fantastic, what other brilliant ideas do you have?
I asked someone a few days ago that LTP is a seller and a traitor. I still haven't gotten an answer. If you are going to make broad accusations, you better back it up, and I haven't seen anyone do it so far. - Vrej
- Thomas wrote:
- Me
You are, in all seriousness, suggesting that we eradicate 22% of Armenian citizens residing in Armenia (that's by official numbers, and doesn't include all those abroad who support Levon)? That's fantastic, what other brilliant ideas do you have?
I asked someone a few days ago that LTP is a seller and a traitor. I still haven't gotten an answer. If you are going to make broad accusations, you better back it up, and I haven't seen anyone do it so far.
Don't be ridiculous.
LTP doesn't have 21% [not 22%] ANYMORE!
Several parties left him, even Marxist party left him. Many, many people left not only LTP but their own parties as well for the stupidity of their leaders {Demirchyan, Sargsyan} after finding out the truth about LTP.
SO, FORE SURE, LTP HAS NO 21% A-NY-MORE!!!
And even if he did have 22%, I think, 78% is bigger than 22%. Don't you know? - Me
- Me wrote:
- Thomas
Don't be ridiculous.
LTP doesn't have 21% [not 22%] ANYMORE!
Several parties left him, even Marxist party left him. Many, many people left not only LTP but their own parties as well for the stupidity of their leaders {Demirchyan, Sargsyan} after finding out the truth about LTP.
SO, FORE SURE, LTP HAS NO 21% A-NY-MORE!!!
And even if he did have 22%, I think, 78% is bigger than 22%. Don't you know?
Do you believe the stuff that you write? The Marxist party is a marginal party that has little to no support in Armenia, so them announcing that in the next election they were going to court their own candidate had little to no effect on LTP's support base.
People knew "the truth" about LTP, what the hell are you talking about? Certainly, no new facts emerged after the election to force people to change their minds. Btw, I wasn't suggesting that 78% is greater than 22%, I'm just saying eradicating 21% of our population (by official numbers) would perhaps not be the best idea ever given that we have a demographic crisis on our hands with the emigration situation and all. It's a savage idea, and one not worth talking about or defending. You'll remember that the Turks tried that as well...
And I'd venture a guess that LTP's base actually increased after March 1st, and with RQ's recent interviews, when it was proven that everything he was saying was true. - Thomas
- marina wrote:
Me,
Uxes varum arden!- Me
Do you believe the stuff that you write? The Marxist party is a marginal party that has little to no support in Armenia, so them announcing that in the next election they were going to court their own candidate had little to no effect on LTP's support base.
People knew "the truth" about LTP, what the hell are you talking about? Certainly, no new facts emerged after the election to force people to change their minds. Btw, I wasn't suggesting that 78% is greater than 22%, I'm just saying eradicating 21% of our population (by official numbers) would perhaps not be the best idea ever given that we have a demographic crisis on our hands with the emigration situation and all. It's a savage idea, and one not worth talking about or defending. You'll remember that the Turks tried that as well...
And I'd venture a guess that LTP's base actually increased after March 1st, and with RQ's recent interviews, when it was proven that everything he was saying was true.
- Me
- Naira wrote:
- Karen
LTP knows that he can not take RK to Hague. You don't want to be a rocket scientist to know this, but it seems like Abo isn't getting it!RK has more power without the foreign backers than LTP. RK backing comes from Kremlin and everyone knows that he's a close friend of Putin, so how the hell would LTP take RK to Hague.
It sounds so absurd that it must only be for PR reasons because, as I said before, LTPs fame is sleeping away day by day.
They will not find anything on RK even if LTP and his idiotic camp tried to find something on him. I doubt that you can be tried in Hague for corruption. For war crimes you can, but what does RK have to do with war crimes anyways!
Watch this. LTP's speech in Gyumri saying he needs to be president for a couple of years only.
LTP acts like a lion, but it's merely for a show. I am 100% confident that he's a sheep inside, but he isn't showing it because he knows that the authorities would not dare to touch him, since he's in the 'spotlight' right now.
- Karen
- Naira wrote:
- Karen
LTP knows that he can not take RK to Hague. You don't want to be a rocket scientist to know this, but it seems like Abo isn't getting it!RK has more power without the foreign backers than LTP. RK backing comes from Kremlin and everyone knows that he's a close friend of Putin, so how the hell would LTP take RK to Hague.
It sounds so absurd that it must only be for PR reasons because, as I said before, LTPs fame is sleeping away day by day.
They will not find anything on RK even if LTP and his idiotic camp tried to find something on him. I doubt that you can be tried in Hague for corruption. For war crimes you can, but what does RK have to do with war crimes anyways!
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7z0E2VYlY&feature=user
LTP's speech in Gyumri saying he needs the presidency for a couple of years only.
LTP acts like a lion, but it's merely for a show. I am 100% confident that he's a sheep inside, but he isn't showing it because he knows that the authorities would not dare to touch him, since he's in the 'spotlight' right now.
- Karen
- Naira wrote:
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7z0E2VYlY&feature=user
LTP's speech in Gyumri saying he needs the presidency for a couple of years only. - Vrej wrote:
- Me
You are, in all seriousness, suggesting that we eradicate 22% of Armenian citizens residing in Armenia (that's by official numbers, and doesn't include all those abroad who support Levon)? That's fantastic, what other brilliant ideas do you have?
I asked someone a few days ago that LTP is a seller and a traitor. I still haven't gotten an answer. If you are going to make broad accusations, you better back it up, and I haven't seen anyone do it so far.
Eradicating 22% of so-called Armenians who are worse than turks and love to see their fatherland destroyed and ruined and its peoples slaved is not only bad but very very great. If we do not this there will be no Armenia by 50 years stupid "Me". There will be no Armenia 'cause bastard LTP is here for this very reason. With his hungry followers that pour to the streets just for a pack of cigarettes and some cheap vodka not for LTP himself. And i'd like to make you clear (since it seems that you are some silly) that LTP has overtly stated that if he elected as president "he would ignore the Genocide and would give back Artsakh to turks and whatever else if his masters would order him." Now i don't know how you and stupids like you have not heard and watched these dangerous and treachery statements. - Me
- avo wrote:
- Vrej
I believe that we mustn't argue with the followers of psycho LTP. LTP and his pervert followers must he spoken with an extremely harsh languate. With a language full of disrespect and curse. Why waste time and energy trying to make them realize something they would never understand?! They are dirts of the Armenian nation which must be eradicated to save our country. Don't think if you stat to make them clear that who is right and who is wrong they would accept. They already know who is satanic and criminal and country seller(LTP) but since they have perverted minds they genuinely go on defending their false idea. So pls pound them with overwhelming answers.
LTP Followers comprise 80% of the population, if not more. - Vrej
- MIHRAN wrote:
- avo
LTP Followers comprise 80% of the population, if not more.
AVO
YOU CONTINUE IN BELIEVING THESE SELF MADE PERCENTAGES TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT ALL THIS NONSENSE !
MIHRAN - avo
- Naira wrote:
I read it somewhere yesterday that LTP followers are less than 7,000 and I believe that. - Vrej wrote:
- Abo
You are right, if LTP has committed similar crimes he should be tried too...
The issue is the following: although not a saint, LTP managed to pull together opposition and create some hope of getting rid of the gangsters rulling Armenia. He says he is trying to repair past misdeeds!! I don't have to believe him but as he aims at kicking SS and RK I am more than glad to support him.
We will get RK to de Hague. I am sure of that. See you on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmenianWhiteKnight
Your way of thinking is very cheap just like your name. You are no comment. - Abo
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